Location: Te Wai Pounamu. Edgard Varese , Jul 31, Location: Pacific NW. Location: Beverly, MA. I think this thread pretty conclusively proves that we just don't know.
Speaking of Phil Ochs Also, his song "When In Rome" is an epic masterpiece, right up there with Dylan's finest work. Now back to 4th Street Location: philly more or less. Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
Vinylsoul , Jul 31, Of course I have several acoustic versions, and they are wonderful. But the studio stands apart. November 2, at am. Tony says:. December 29, at pm. Mike says:. May 15, at pm. April 15, at pm. Don says:.
James A. Barnhart says:. April 16, at am. The song is played by Dylan in a Dropped D tuning capoed at the fourth fret and play in F. Claudio says:. Efficient says:. September 4, at am. September 7, at am. November 27, at pm. Nancy E Murdock says:. March 9, at pm. Thanks, enjoyed reading. But Dylan is still sympathetic, he does not "feel good when he sees the heartbreaks his friend embraces".
He'd even like to fix the problems. But he knows he can't; he'd have to be a master thief to "rob" the friend of his negative thoughts. That's why it's such a "drag" to see this "friend". The friend is just not reasonable. Of course, if you see yourself in this song, then it might feel like a giant middle finger being pointed at you. And that's the genius of the song. Cornball on June 04, Song Meaning I believe this song is a direct defense and attack on Irwin Silber, a leader of the folk scene at the time.
I have a copy of Sing Out magazine from November 64 where Silber, who was the editor, wrote a scathing criticism of Dylan in an article called 'An Open Letter to Dylan'. In that article he accused Bob of betraying his folk fans in favor of rock music, glory and money. Positively 4th Street came out about 3 months later and to me it is Dylan using his new-found power to squash a bug with a top-ten pop song sledgehammer.
To me it's one of the great comebacks of all time. The title is apparently a reference to the West 4th Street address where Dylan stayed when he was living in Greenwich Village. LeeRudyard on January 22, Link. No Replies Log in to reply. General Comment Okay, this is a long post and I may repeat myself, but it's not an English essay.
I hate to sound like the Old Dylan Crone, but does anyone remember Bob's extremely competitive and vitriolic relationship with his one-time early Village friend and major folk-activist-singer Phil Ochs? Ochs, who wrote and sang some of the most important anti-war and protest songs of the '60s and early '70s, was a key player in the same Village folk scene as Dylan, the early days of the Vietnam War.
Ochs' suicide is my reason for bringing his name onto this thread of speculation about Dylan's song Positively 4th Street. For over 10 years -- from the time Dylan wrote the song, sometime in , until April, Of course, there have always been those who believe that Dylan's song is about the blood-sucking press.
Do you, Mr. Most of any early speculation about the meaning or target of the song can be traced to a few people formerly linked to Dylan who crawled out of the woodwork seeming to seek their own 15 minutes of fame with public announcements that they just might be the one who was the focus of the song's bitter words.
Immediately following Ochs' suicide, such discussion quickly dried up. It seemed impolite, impolitic, and to some, even cruel, to possibly link Dylan's caustic lyrics to his mid-'60s fall-out with Ochs.
It also probably seemed more so since Bob was in the midst of the Rolling Thunder Revue, a tour in which Ochs had asked to be included. Bob nixxed the idea, most likely because Ochs' drinking and drugging were completely out of control and his physical condition was abysmal. It's been said -- and written -- that Bob refused to allow Ochs on the tour because Ochs called him a "cheap little Jew" in an interview with journalist Harry Smith. Ochs had said much worse about Dylan during their mid-'60s mega-feud, and Bob had always come right back at him, so I don't believe Ochs' obnoxious comment, made in the advanced stages of alcoholism and manic-depression, to be the reason he wasn't included in the RTR.
Bob's got a long memory, it's true, but he wouldn't have been that petty knowing that Ochs' mental and physical conditions were at rock-bottom when the comment was made. Expand the sub menu Theater. Expand the sub menu VIP.
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