I honestly think that this would make it far better for people to not only make money in industry but also benefit the community as a whole by encouraging more production and buying of T2 ships. As it stands right now, T2 seems like an elite status symbol almost from my perspective as a new player. Only the weathiest or oldest of players can have a T2 BPO it seems. You earn far more money by doing invention, just stick to that. Also T2 BPOs are indeed just an elite status symbol now, just like AT ships, Amarr tournament ships, Megathron federate issue and Stratios emergency responders just to name a few.
What about the blue prints you make through invention then? In fact, pretty much every tech II item released after doesn't even have original blueprints available, and can only be produced from invention for example, all of the rigs. Sist redigert av Shotgun ; Okay thanks for the clarification between Tech and Tier. I continued reading and found the part on invention. Xenrek Vis profil Vis innlegg. Opprinnelig skrevet av Maverick :.
Not even sure why they're bothering with a removal. There are few T2 BPOs in active use now, due to attrition inactive accounts, destruction, etc. Opprinnelig skrevet av Shotgun :. Rofl Karti Vis profil Vis innlegg. Opprinnelig skrevet av Commander Richard Aydius :. Opprinnelig skrevet av Rofl Karti :. Per side: 15 30 Dato lagt ut: When I first started getting into industry in , I thought these were the win button of Eve.
Now the only way to get one is to buy one from another player, which brings me to my research. I want to show everyone that even though they do make money, the return on the investment is very poor in the majority of cases. I used a market program to figure out the yearly profit and divided that by the sold cost to get a return.
Though you may be drawn in by the yearly profit numbers, consider the amount of ISK used to achieve that number. It looks like some Ammo, Mining Crystals, and Torpedo BPOs will start to turn you a profit beyond the original investment in years.
The ability of players to out manufacture with the Invention process sinks the profits below that of a researched T2 BPO. Keep in mind that if you own a T2 BPO, you only produce one item. The beauty of the invention framework is that you can be more flexible and can react to changing market conditions. The drawback is that there is an increase in the complexity to produce an item.
If you have piles of cash and want to sit idle in a manufacturing station making sure your T2 BPO is constantly in production, you might want to consider buying some. For the average industry person or corporation, it is a very poor investment. To compare performance numbers, I am making around 8 B a month turning over 31 B. A T2 BPO, equal to around the same amount of capital, will make you 3. In March , Only 7. Post lottery, T2 BPOs do make very passive income for a very large price.
For the time it takes to get a return on your investment, the capital could better be spent in other areas. Your research is very solid and you are absolutely right. Buying one now is very risky because there may be changes soon.
They will most likely change short after you bought one. So you will loose money. And yes, with the invention you are far more flexible and you can produce a lot of stuff instead of 1 or 2 items. And you can produce parallel since you more often than not get more inventions through than you can build things. And the argument that T2 BPOs destroy the prices is most of the time void too.
So buying a T2 bpo now is a risky investment. If you do so, you make someone else very happy and very rich. There are some rare cases to buy them but thats not reasonable movement. The inventor makes a bit money with selling it and thats fine. Even if prices for the module he has are low, he will most likely still make money with it. Once the prices are low, inventors will stop producing this item and price will go up again since as i stated before the T2 owner cant sustain the demand.
The bpo owner has it, no matter how bad market is. I was going to post something here but Chanina, covered my points very nicely and without rage, which is something I may not have been able to do. I understand their reason for existence, Eve is full of legacy systems, mechanics and examples. But this is not a dreadnought in hi sec mining veldspar.
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